feel like it’s pertinent to paste this over from tumblr:
That dsa dating event has been discourse for like days now but people pointed out that the venue, SILO, takes its inspiration from “tel Aviv party culture” and that maybe dsa should not promote a club like that got twisted by other dsa members into saying “are you just saying not to go because it’s Jewish owned??” Is just… yes it actually is sketchy that they’re “taking inspiration from israeli rave culture”, its essentially another way israel exerts soft power through cultural influence. And the fact that an active member pointed this out and got blocked by dsa NYC… comical. It doesn’t matter if they “held palestine fundraising there” because they’re contributing to the circumstances that palestine needs fundraising for.
more references and info on the tumblr post
Definitely a very serious leftist party, definitely
The dsa is highly regional even more so than that of the cpusa back in there hey day which is why you have Soc dem chapters sharing an org with Marxist lennists
No entendí. ¿Básicamente aplicaron un “los viernes de la jungla serán a todo ojete”?
Porque no entiendo para nada todo ese maldito póster que suena que van a traer cariñosas.
I always advise new members of our party to not do dumb shit like hit on other party members, because it is highly inappropriate and not really what we want to be (a hook up club, that is)
I’ll take the brave position that this is okay and totally normal, dating apps are incredibly alienating. We need human connections
A political party just isn’t really the best avenue to do that though. I’ve been to valentine’s themed events put on by other Marxist parties and even then, the theme of the event wasn’t so much “thots & singles mixing”, but was about love for revolution/ love for the people. The “trots” part is an even worse tell of the DSA itself lmao.
Well, calling it “Thots and Trots” makes it look like it is for hooking up rather than just dating. It wouldn’t bad so bad in itself but you hear about a sex pest problem in some American left org once every two months or so. On top of that I have heard something about people coming in the orbit of the DSA just looking to get laid.
My experience with DSA and their ilk only comes from what I have read online since they and I are separated by more than a whole ocean. So I cannot definitively say if this symptomatic of larger problems. But I feel comfortable in saying a serious leftist organisation would not hold an event like this, let alone call it thots and trots. It’s incredibly weird.
I’ve met them. I can confirm that they are weird. Their heart is in the right place, but they largely just seem like an uncohesive anti-capitalist group more than anything. There are some Marxist members, but their ideology is all over the place. They generally don’t seem to like AES countries much. But they can be fun to hang out with, even if only for the spectacle.
DSA is almost entirely based on your local chapter and trying to ascribe a somewhat cohesive understanding of them from a national level is, in my opinion, not going to yeild accurate or useful results.
There are some chapters where the leadership of DSA is extremely socdem and liberal while the membership are commited Marxists, or at least anti-imperialist and nominally pro-AES. There are other chapters where it’s the reverse, and the leadership is a bunch of commited anti-imperialists whom are trying their damnest to sheperad baby leftists socdems into actual revolutionary politics but are constrained by the majority white leftist community. There’s also chapters where the leadership and membership are quite consistent in their views, be it socdem liberalism or commited Marxists who just needed an organization structure to begin doing actions and found it through the DSA.
This doesn’t take into account the conflicts between DSA and YDSA which is its own category of discussion.
I will say that according to a Comrade of mine who I know is within my local DSA, there’s currently a power struggle within the organization itself happening mainly through the local branches. The struggle is between the anti-imperialist faction who often find themselves amiable towards MLs and other Marxists due to the shared internationalist line, and the socdem liberal faction who focuses more of their attention on electoralism.
Right now, the latter faction seems to have institutional power of a certain degree, boasting socdem representatives within the US government, but they are increasingly at odds with the organization itself which seems to be becomimg more and more influenced by the former faction. I personally think that the socdems will eventually be overwhelmed and break into various splits while the DSA eventually comes under the control of the anti-imperialist faction.
This is also something I would suggest you don’t just take my word for it, as I mentioned prior, local chapters are the most important factor for determining how the DSA operates at a level that matters.
My position stands. See above.
I am not going to say you can’t find love while involved in a political party, the best relationships I have had (including my current longterm one) all came about incidentally while involved in something else. But maybe that shouldn’t really be something the party is spending time focusing on.
That aside, the terminology they are using is…really bad, both ways. Especially if you think identifying as a trot is a good thing.
Encouraging dating and misogynistic slurs for women in one? Oh baby, it’s a wonder the DSA is so male. Everyone knows ladies all love both creeps and misogyny. /s
Unprofessional.
