As an aside, I’ve seen this happen elsewhere as well. Classic play for wage theft. When I was working as a bartender in London to make ends meet, I had a coworker from Mexico on an expired visa. Great guy and the most hardworking. Well won’t you guess it, guy got picked up by immigration authority on payday.

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    If we’re gonna crack down on illegal immigrant labor, we should start with the people who knowingly employ them. Who’s crime is greater, the person who came to this country to seek a better life by the sweat of their brow, or the employer who hired them because they knew they could pay them less and otherwise extort and coerce their labor? Ask me the former is barley, if at all, a crime. Whereas the latter is deserving of a criminal investigation and sentence.

    Fucking embarrassing…

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    Manager better be locking his door, replacing windows with walls, and getting armed security that goes with the everywhere.

    If my manager pulled this shit, the manager would no longer have a home or vehicle by the following morning. Whether they get caught inside the house doesn’t matter.

    Anyone who destroys someone’s life over obvious insecurities “an argument” deserves to have their own life destroyed.

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        Eh,my current manager was under me prior to a change in teams. I didn’t go for that position because I hate management. He’s still a great guy who largely lets me work however I need to, and shields me from upper management. I like having good managers who can be a buffer between me (tech) and upper management who don’t exactly understand what I do.

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          “Not all men managers”

          But yeah, it’s interesting when a friend gets promoted to management. We like when they keep their working class roots top of mind, and it’s great when one does. Many of us try it once or twice. But the first time that layoff convo comes down from on high, you find the fuck out they care more about their own standing in the system than putting workers first. Cops and managers - I ain’t trying to be either.

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            Definitely fair, and no argument against. Though, in both instances that I got laid off, it was on the 5th round of layoffs, and my bosses (who I got along with both times) got laid off before me in the 4th round. In addition, at one of the companies I was friends with the person who cut access and all, and they kept it secret from even her until the day after taking her phone and keeping them in a locked room. Both times someone either way up the chain or from HR delivered the news, so not sure the bosses would have even came into the convo, had they not already been canned anyway

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    Apparently the wealthy couldn’t keep us under control by threatening homelessness, starvation and loss of healthcare - now they have to threaten to fucking deport us if we don’t bend the knee to their miniature dictatorships.

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    So the manager/owner also got arrested or fined for employing illegal immigrants right?

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    I’m not doubting the events of that London story, but under UK law knowingly employing illegal workers is an unlimited fine plus 5 years jail time, and even employing one by mistake after not doing the correct checks is up to a £60,000 fine, so it was deliberate than it was quite a gamble…

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      I couldn’t tell you. This is almost 20 years ago now and I know my colleague disappeared from one day to the next after payday.

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    A big part of what’s keeping my wages as a nurse depressed is health systems bringing in international nurses that are too afraid to demand better wages. They’re also often too afraid to pipe up about the sketchy shit too; I’ve gotten pushed out of jobs for being too insistent on doing things the safer or more legal way. And it’s never anything you could really prove in the go public way its more like I suspect the reason they’re telling me it takes longer to do this task when I’m here than when I’m not is that they skip the part where they explain all the patients rights to them or they skip the followup assessment to check for adverse reactions or whatever. It’s never “why are you bothering to do this critical step” it’s “why aren’t you as fast as this person?” or “why do you use so many of these supplies?” They’d never tell you to skip those parts in writing but they’ll sure as hell constantly keep asking why you’re so slow and wasteful compared to the people that are more scared of them.

    And I’m not even blaming the international nurses, tbh they’re just as much victims in this as I and the patients am possibly even more in some ways. If you look into some of the stories of the nursing home contracts a bunch of those situations are actually just straight up human trafficking including being lied to about the job description, the pay, being lied to about their rights or what the actual regulations are on things and that they’ll get in trouble if they speak up even if it’s for the patients. Being told they’re not allowed to leave the building for multiple shifts worth of time or they’ll lose the job that brought them here. And then when you look at how many nurses already regardless of immigration status are already getting hit at work and think about what it must be like to be told you have to just deal with it or they’ll call ICE to come get you… it’s just fucking awful shit all around.

    If nurse pay actually had to be adjusted to something more nurses born here were willing to do that work for the Healthcare industry as we know it would collapse (but tbh there’s a lot of other horribly inhumane things about it anyway so 🔥).

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      I appreciate your insight here. It has some relevance to where I am in the UK, where international workers are holding up the NHS. (This is one of many reasons why Brexit was a disaster)

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      If you run into this again, maybe you can use pursuit of efficiency to get proof?

      “If we really want to find out why, we can use a Value-stream mapping approach to analyze the process. We might even identify additional specific opportunities where we’re able to speed up!”

      By documenting all steps in a process and timing each one you’d be able to identify where the difference is, and whether a critical step is being skipped. It really doesn’t have to take much time or effort. If management can’t be bothered to make that happen, then they must not really care about efficiency.

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    The more I’ve lived to see the way things go, the more I’ve come around to the idea that maybe the commies were on to something. Maybe struggle sessions were the least some people deserve.

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    Hires illegal migrants and uses ice to keep them in line lmao

    the owner should be arrested and ice should deport the illegal migrants.

    Also, your coworker should have renewed his visa.

    Not that hard to understand.

    Enter through the ports of entry.

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      People like this manager hire undocumented immigrants because they can pay them less and they can abuse them under the threat of deportation. Are you suggesting an inconsistency in his behavior? Majority of immigrants do enter at ports of entry actually, and furthermore, go fuck yourself.

      I’d rather people who say shit like your comment be deported, if I supported any sort of deportations.

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        The “undocumented immigrants” that the owner hired obviously didn’t enter through ports of entry. And I said in my comment that he should be held accountable for such actions.

        The one who had a visa did, he should have renewed his visa.

        People like you who can’t even have a civil discussion should be deported.

        Enter through the ports of entry, renew your visas on time, don’t join gangs.

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        Do you support illegal immigration? Do you even care about how many people die just to be smuggled into the USA? How many of them are kids?

        Or do you just care just because conservatives oppose illegal border crossings?

        I bet you don’t. You watch the news and just let yourself become indoctrinated by your corporate masters and then try to be a tough guy on the internet.

        All talk with no solutions.