• Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
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    How would that even work? They are doing exactly what their owners donors want.

    Are they saying that rich people should want unions or that there needs to be other ways to fund politics?

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    Dems didn’t “lose” the working class. Misinformation overshadowed the message.

    There’s a lot the Dems can do for unions and working-class normal folks. But Kamala could have cured cancer with a touch and they wouldn’t have believed it because everything else they consume downplays the improving economy, security and stability under Biden so it was ultimately useless.

    Buckets of roubles on Facebook and X won this election.

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    the party is hopelesslty corrupted and wont even acknowledge why they lost. Its time to dump the dems and build up a progressive party.

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      That would be after FPTP voting is replaced with RCV or STAR in all 50 states. Trying a third party before those steps will hand the federal government to the GOP for the remainder of my life.

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    We’ve had several elections in recent memory where it’s been really clear that progressive Democrats win elections compared to centrists (mostly midterm elections but still). Somehow that lesson hasn’t stuck, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Harris’ defeat also doesn’t teach this lesson. At this point the old guard really just needs to die.

    People want change, GOP is offering it and people are eating it up. They just have no idea how incredibly stupid that version of change is.

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        I applied a while back to no response. Although the nearest chapter is 2 hours away to be fair. They do great work though from what I hear.

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          If it was during COVID, I have been informed by current members that they had a bunch of issues and have since rectified the application process. If you are still interested, I have been told the best thing is to re-apply, if you don’t get a response this time then it’s safe to drop it.

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    I’m all for it. The Democrats have been a joke since they fucked Bernie. They’re terrible and don’t give a shit about their voters.

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      Oh, they were a joke long before that. In 2006, when we went from having a congress that rubber stamped everything Bush wanted to a congress that said they were displeased with Bush as they rubber stamped everything he wanted.

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      To be clear to the naysayers: It’s not that we’re angry Bernie got fucked, it is what it is. We’ve just seen the writing on the wall SINCE he got screwed over.

      Also we’re a little angry.

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      Absolutely. Just don’t use that word. The propaganda is so goddamn ingrained in the American psyche we might as well just call it something else and try to bypass that fight.

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        The freedom to eat, the freedom to earn a fair day’s pay for a fair day’s honest work, the freedom to afford a house, the freedom from wall street usury, the freedom patriotically build secure and supportive communities, freedom healthcare, protecting the landscape of the greatest country on earth for all of America’s generations to come, etc.

        Loads of ways to spin free market socialism, take your pick.

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        It’s just a branding problem that needs a more modern name for today’s modern voter

        Democracy+

        Democracy McDemocracyFace

        Buddy Democracy

        Msilaicos

        Ocialismsay

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    I think its time to deconstruct it tbh. Name’s tainted and “neither” has been the most popular candidate for the past 3 election cycles now. People are itching for a new party to support that doesn’t make them feel like their vote is worthless

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      Seriously why are we continuing with the same party that supported slavery and has been on doing the bare minimum to help people for the last 50 years.

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        It’s pretty stupid to base your support of a party on what it used to be, not what it is now.

        Using your logic, you support the GOP because they elected Lincoln and ended slavery, right? It’s not like there’s been 160 years of history that might have changed it since, including things like the Southern Strategy and the “Moral Majority”, right?

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          I know people who say they support the Republicans because of that un-sarcastically. Soo logic isn’t the strong suit of a majority of voters I think.

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        Slavery, segregation, the Dixiecrats, the Democratic Party wasn’t even the “good” one for most of the time it’s been around (and arguably wasn’t even even definitely “the” good one until like 40 years ago.

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    Are these the same union leaders who backed Trump, because while they’re right about the need for reconstruction, I’d like to exclude any fascists from the effort.

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        I’m always skeptical of any Trump voter who is “pro-worker”. I assume they exclusively support workers who are straight, white, cisgender, and xtian…

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          Does the article call them trumpers, or do you just assume that about anyone who wants the party to change?

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            The leader of the Teamsters Union spoke at the modern day Nüremberg rally known as the RNC.

            While a lot of tribalist Democrats tend to equate any criticism of Dem leadership with trumpism, that might not be what’s happening this time 🤷

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    While I wish them luck, the DNC is structured in a manner that retains power for those with the best ability to secure donations, and these donations come overwhelmingly from wealthy Capitalists. Moving the DNC to a more progressive platform has been the project of Bernie and the Squad for decades, and it seems to have little impact on the broader party line. The DNC isn’t really organized in a democratic manner, it operates more like a business.

    Workers should instead focus on rapidly expanding their own organizations, which does make a meaningful impact on policy adopted. If you have something to bring to the bargaining table, the DNC is more likely to play ball, but you have to make them do it.

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    Fuck the Democrats.

    After that piss poor performance and immediate “we’re going to just do it again” what do they think people are going to bother getting out for?

    Run Harris and the same shit again and get fewer votes than last time dipshits I don’t care.

    Edit also to clarify I mean the DNC/ party leaders not voters. But fuck me too lol