So did we design a system that only rewards psychopaths and rapists? Because it seems like anyone with any ounce of power is a psycho, a rapist, or both.
Yes, capitalism rewards sociopaths the most, as they are the most willing to exploit other people for profit.
David lynch lived his whole life, mostly in a position of power and no accusations. Almost seems unbelievable, which is…pretty sad in itself.
yes. that’s what the feminists been saying since at least 1848
Are you picking 1848 at random or is there something significant in the history of feminism I should know about?
Seneca Falls Convention. by many it is viewed as the first women’s rights convention in an official capacity.
i always want to think that happened after the US civil war and not before it
america has a rich history of people taking significant risks to plant trees for future generations to rest under. the woke mafia today being criminalized for existence is just a modern expression of this. we will take significant risks for our own wellbeing as we enter this new era, just as we had before. we won’t be enough right away. we never have been before. but we will be enough to pass this history on to the future generations who will rest in that shade we so desire
I wouldn’t say it only rewards psychopaths and rapists, but it does take a specific type of person to be at the very top of the all time rich people lists.
The character traits often used to describe those types of people often align pretty closely with regular psychopaths except these ones are ultra wealthy and therefore harder to shut down because of their massive wealth and influence.
Poor psychopaths can’t get outta nearly as many situations by just throwing money at people so they tend to get caught by the system.
All that being said there are “good” rich and powerful people but they aren’t narcissistic or egotistical so they tend to fly under the radar and not catch my much media attention.
I know Myspace Tom isn’t considered ultra wealthy as he only has a piddly couple hundred million dollars, but the guy made one of the most influential early social media websites and then sold it and dipped out of the public eye entirely. Now he does photography and just lives his life.
We need more Myspace Toms and less Elon Musks.
All systems so far for the entirety of human history have rewarded psychopaths and rapists as far as I can tell.
Agreed, sadly. I mean look at Moses. Seriously, read the chapters about him going up the mountain, coming back with the big list of rules, then ordering the killing thousands of the people who’d followed him into the desert, because they didn’t obey the rules while he was away getting the big list of rules. Psycho.
Then he said to them, “This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: ‘Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.’ ” The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died.
It sounds like you’re really pessimistic regarding humans and their systems.
Are you in a friend group that rewards psychopaths and rapists? Have you entered relationships where psychopaths and rapists have been rewarded? If so, do you know about scaled evolutionary approaches, and how it’s a good idea to join groups where your own incentives are aligned with that of the group? Do you know about the Duluth Model and CBT’s 5% reduction in recidivism of abuse, as well as ACT’s 30 to 70% reductions in recidivism of abuse (depending on whether people join voluntarily or not)?
Those systems (the Duluth Model, CBT, and especially ACT) are not rewarding psychopaths. They are transforming people into reflexive and non-abusive people.
Sources:
- https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14729422/
- https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25265545/
- https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2017-12247-001
(sorry for the paywall; many academics are happy to send you a free copy if you contact them).
Hmm I am thinking of the larger systems of governance. Genghis Kahn, any of the European monarchies, Hitler, slavery, Trump, David Koresh, Catholic priest scandals, CEOs existence… The history of human nature is that the ruthless psychopaths succeed.
I am doing fine on a local level, thank you for your concern. Sign waving, coaching sports, UU congregation etc. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy is excellent and I’ve used it personally in the past. The models you mentioned absolutely help individuals, what does that have to do with who succeeds in business and government? Are we going to get Trump or any Republicans, or any Democrats for that matter, to use these methods? Even the model socialist democracies currently in Europe are a small recent example, and are currently trying their hardest to devolve into right wing capitalism.
So yeah, I’m super pessimistic. Also guilty that I know I’ll probably be fine. That’s where I actually struggle.
In essence, psychopaths and rapists are by their nature inclined to desire power over others since they’re intraspecies predators. Any system that permits them significant power over others will inherently attract them. Like Capitalism, for instance.
If you have basic morals you probably wouldn’t ever be in their place, so probably yeah
Basically, yeah.
It is simply bias. How much do you hear about those that are perfectly normal? Those that specially do not want to be in public but live their lives in privacy?
Dunno man, there was a time I didn’t know who Sam Altman was, and he still did those things.
EDIT: I suppose an allegedly is in order at this point
Mate, there are 800 billionaires in the USA alone. How many do you know? 20? I am certain that they will be far more likely to be [bad trait], but even at 200 out of 800 being assholes/… most would still not be.
It’s always the people you suspect the most.
Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI, molested his sister starting when she was 3 until 12 years old. All his fans on X can talk about is how altruistic it must have been.
“He’s worth a lot of money so it doesn’t count.” - the US justice system
Maybe not after all the DeepSeek stuff
Well I’m shocked.
He seems so trustworthy.
Timewarp is right, I thought “Am I having a stroke” halfway through, half convinced it was like the onion shootings copypasta, then I saw the date.
I wasn’t surprised the first time either.
If this is true then Jesus fucking Christ get this guy in prison
Sure is interesting how she “suddenly” remembered all this after Altman gained fame.
She’s been talking about it for a while just no one cared cause her molester was considered to be some AI God.
You think it’s all about that whopping $75k in damages, yeah?
sURe iS InTEreStinG lmao piss off to back under your bridge wanker
I hope you don’t have any sisters.
