I’m posting because originally when I was looking to create a Lemmy account I came across Hexbear. I read the code of conduct and TOS and to me it seemed like a great fit for me. However, after creating an account there, it seems pretty defederated.

Anyway I was curious on the happenings over there, because they have some cute custom emojis over there… but if there’s a reason they’re so defederated, I might just pretend i never made an account there

EDIT: omg I just found out this instance has cute blob emojis too :3 ablobcatrave

  • thezeesystem@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    I know some of the lore but people have already answered that, so give you my experience, I joined it see what it’s like, I reported something that broke there ToS, I was then thrown on a community called “dunk tank” or something like that.

    I was new to lemmy and it said in what I thought messages was that I got a message and then I responded to it

    Apparently it’s against that community rules to respond to it

    I was permanently banned

    So, yeah hexbear is capitalist bootlickers who mask them selfs as communists.

    Although tbh. Lemmy.world seems very capitalist loving but at least I don’t get instant banned because I’m new. Never had any problems with Lemmy.ml in my experience, but also I have some problems with shit just works (or whatever its called)

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      They are absolutely not capitalist bootlickers thats a wild ass take. I’m sorry they were mean to you, they got rid of the dunk_tank recently, though there was some drama about it and some communities popped up that essentially mimic it in a slightly less rude way. I’ve never found a community more accepting and understanding when you come to them in good faith and don’t say anything stupid about communism bc they will dog on you for that.

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        Not always true about the good faith. If you go against their core beliefs like “left unity” even outside their spaces, you can get in their shit list and get piled on. Happened to me in my own instance community.

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        don’t say anything stupid about communism

        Oh yea like rightful and fair criticism of the CCP’s human rights violations or Putler’s unprovoked war

        Just “stupid” things lol

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          And North Korea and Libya as well.

          They just love to simp for dictators all over the world as long as they say they’re, “for the people.”

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    Hexbear is a instance run by communist that some people hate because we can be a bit loud and snarky about our politics. Super trans friendly though 👍

    Edit: they are indeed heavily defederated which is why I choose to use a lemmy.ml account most of the time. I get to interact with them and most everyone else.

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    Hexbear, Lemmygrad, .ml are all part of the Tankie Triad. The real rules are all unwritten and you’ll never know them till your posts get removed and you’re banned

    Their support for trans is paper thin at best, this is what Nutomic, head dev, biggest Tankie and lead admin of .ml has to say about the trans community

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    They are tankies. They like China and Russia because they’re supposedly communist and ignore all the human rights violations.

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          It’s not, and literally no one on those instances thinks that it is.

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              Show me one single example of it, then. You can’t, because they don’t.

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                It’s amazing that when faced with sober geopolitical analysis, people mistake it for moral justification or dehumanization. You can’t solve geopolitical issues without acknowledging geopolitics! Of course it was immoral for Russia to attack Ukraine, but shouting that into the void and expecting anything to change does not save Ukrainian or Russian lives.

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          The top comment in this thread has no idea what they are talking about and I would not take them seriously. The communist opinions on China and Russia are so much more nuanced than they give credit for. Explaining them would actually take me hours to write but you can go there and ask. They will be forthcoming and genuine as long as you are.

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      Literally no one thinks post-1991 Russia is communist. Show me a single example.

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        True but I’ve also seen quite a few ml users defend russia invading ukraine and calling ukrainians vermin etc

        Edit: That is to say, it’s easy to think they think russia is communist when they celebrate them killing civilians as some sort of victory against imperialism

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      More “Insist the human rights violations are capitalist/western/CIA propaganda used to fuel a culture war”. Which like yeah, the most effective propaganda is the truth and all that…

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    Hexbear was one of the earliest servers that is now part of the fediverse. It was started after chapo trap house was banned from Reddit.

    Users there realized the danger of the rich being able to shut down online leftist spaces well before the first waves of reddit exodus.

    They do not put up with the slightest whiff of transphobic bullshit and moderate & ban that crap swiftly.

    You may hear some weird takes on the US’s global adversaries, but you won’t have to put up with weird takes on the US.

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    I’m not trans so I never had reason to go down this particular rabbithole, but I remember when I first I joined the platform there was some kind of commotion around Hexbear and nobody wanting to be federated with em because of their supposedly weird tankie politics. I’ve never seen any tangible evidence of this (insert lack of rabbithole following here), but reading the comments, there seems to be two stories and now I’m really curious what you find out here.

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      I’m not trans, but I can say that no matter the various reasons, my personal one was simple:

      Everytime someone replied to one of my comments with the most asinine, absurd or just downright stupid asshole approaches, it was always hexbear.

      Literally a sigh of relief when Lemmy added personal instance blocking. Immediately hit that button and never looked back.

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        Did a little spelunking and investigating, kinda leaning towards them all being tankies. At least in the few things I glanced at, there wasn’t anything extreme or over-the-top, but they also seemed quite happy to ban a user for very minor criticisms of the Orange Cunt and the instance mods also mod a looot of communism and CCP related communities, so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

        Toying with making an account and posting a certain controversial image just to see what happens

        • seemed quite happy to ban a user for very minor criticisms of the Orange Cunt

          Which user?

          the instance mods also mod a looot of communism and CCP related communities

          Could it be that they are communists, leftists (i.e. anti-capitalist)… as they declared themselves?

          Toying with making an account and posting a certain controversial image just to see what happens

          Since you are being vauge, I’m not sure which one you are talking about. But either you will be banned, probably for racism (implying a chinese person is yellow), or you will be given books and links to read/watch up on.

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            It’s not particularly hard to guess what image I’m referring to given the context of the thread, lol

            Hint: It was taken in 1989

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    Lemmy instances are all independent and all have their own rules for posting and commenting. You will find that some communities allow things you find offensive, you will find that some communities ban things you find benign, this is decentralization in action.

    If you consider yourself to be a leftist, you will find friends on the “tankie instances” (I can’t speak to lemmygrad, I’ve never interacted with them).

    There are also instances that have defederated with .world, because they find it to be offensive.

    Blahaj is one of the instances I generally find to be enjoyable personally.

    Edit: Just wanted to add, I’ve had comments modded on hexbear and on .world, remember the rules of the instance you’re visiting.

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      So basically they’re just reaaallllyyy far left? Here’s the thing, I call myself a lefty, liberal, and progressive almost interchangeably. I don’t think I’d fit in there because obviously tiananmen square happened, and obviously what’s happening with Uyghur people is a goddamn travesty.

      On top of that, while I think on paper communism sounds nice, in practice that’s not really the case.

      Also, one of the things that bummed me out was losing access to cute custom emojis but I’ve since learned that blahaj has some blobcat, wobble

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        That’s not really the issue. The issue is that hexbear allows and condones harassment and bullying. They also have a lot of “tankies” which are people who defend dictatorships and genocide.

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        because obviously tiananmen square happened, and obviously what’s happening with Uyghur people is a goddamn travesty.

        That one sentence would get removed and likely a comm ban on any of the Tankie Triad. .ml would remove it under their catchall “Rule 1: Bigotry”

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        cute custom emojis but I’ve since learned that blahaj has some

        Blahaj could have you covered on that side!

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            That’s a damn accurate pic describing those communities in a nutshell.

            They just love simping for dictators as long as those dictators say they’re “for the people” as they’re committing crimes against humanity.

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      That’s a straight up lie, lemmy.blahaj.zone is the trans-inclusive zone

      Nobody has forgotten what Nutomic truly believes

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          I just posted it as it’s own comment, but he’s the head Lemmy dev, huge Tankie and lead admin of .ml

          .ml is part of the “Tankie Triad” along with hex and I can assure you those “ideals” persist through out, despite what they say.