cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/28539608
Speculation of Tesla CEOās possible departure comes as his influence in the administration appears to wane
Elon Musk is reportedly set to leave his government role because heās tired of the what he sees as a litany of vicious and unethical attacks from the left, according to a report from The Washington Post.
It remains unclear when Musk will depart as head of DOGE; his special government employee status will expire at the end of next month. A person familiar with his thinking told The Post that Musk thinks that his work at DOGE wonāt be diminished because of his departure, noting that staffers have already established themselves across a slew of federal agencies.
But speculation of Muskās possible departure comes as his influence in the administration appears to wane. The New York Times reported last week that the acting commissioner of the IRS was being replaced after Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent complained that Musk had his preferred candidate installed without Bessentās support. Musk has also annoyed other cabinet members by failing to coordinate with them in cost-cutting moves.
See? Bullying fascism works. Itās the only thing that works. Fascism is fought with violence (physical or otherwise) as itās the only language that it understands.
When an opponent doesnāt care about rules, playing by those rules only puts you at disadvantage.
We did have a little part in this, but otoh heās been playing that game for years on his platform, I donāt think it is what drove him out. Him blaming the Left is just - well, itās what he would do isnāt it?
But now, even MAGA is against him. DOGE is such a blatant fuck-up on all levels, he probably doesnāt even want to do that anymore. It wonāt bring his stock back up.
Yeah. We can assume he gave himself an insane amount of extra cash through his access (like the surprising-wink-wink gov contracts his companies have now), but we donāt know truly know how much and heād be stupid to let anybody know.
He has to get the fuck out now though because obviously him gaining a few more billions cost the american state + public hundreds of billions in long-term damage, if not trillions. It also made swaths of the american government dysfunctional, things like veteran aid etc.
No, they arenāt. Just the other day I saw idiots on Facebook calling for DOGE to come investigate our (Democrat led) county. They think heās doing great work saving them money.
As I said, idiots.
When an opponent doesnāt care about rules, playing by those rules only puts you at disadvantage.
I think the first step is to stop calling out disinformation when itās against Drump and Co, let that shit ride
Indeed, weāre trying to win back our freedom, not medals for best behavior.
Bullying power in general as well. Progressives have been too soft on liberals too and always let them run the show. But the reality is itās always harder to rally people when things seem to be going ok and the crisis is muffled rather than blatantly obvious. Kinda how we never go to the dentist when nothing hurts even though we really shouldnāt wait until it does. Anyway, hope something meaningful comes of this resistance because this fascist stage is still a stage of neoliberalism, like thatās where the root cause is.
I know itās not your point, but you really should go to the dentist regularly, not just when something hurts. Take care of your teeth and theyāll take care of you!
Itās definitely my point! Thatās exactly why I used that analogy :)
We should tend to our teeth, our environment and our political environment as well ā and they will, as you say, take care of us. The ācavitiesā in American politics started waaaay before Trump. Trump is when they reached the nerve. (I hope I said that correctly, ESL here.)
Kinda how we never go to the dentist when nothing hurts even though we really shouldnāt wait until it does
Now I find that this all depends on the character of your dentistā¦
Regular visits to many dentists I have known in my life result in un-necessary procedures, additional pain and lower quality of life in general as compared to if you had just stayed the hell away and taken decent care of your own teeth at home. Yes, this is unethical, but in my life experience 9/10 dentists I have visited are unethical and do push any procedure they think they can sell you, particularly if the procedure is covered by your insurance.
If we could get a ārealā dentist rating system going where you could judge them before experiencing the high-pressure sales pitch from authority while you are in the chair under the light, we might make some positive progress. Good dental practices are good for the patients. Un-necessary deep scale cleanings, recession reconstructions, drill and fill of not-really cavities and so many other things have given dentists in general a bad reputation IMO.
Youāre right but I wasnāt going for a ādentist = political partyā analogy. More like a āget your teeth taken care of = keep power in check through public pressureā analogy (to be clear, only voting doesnāt count as pressure) .
I keep hoping that this cycle will be the one that demonstrates that we need real transparency, real accountability, and real limits of power to screw around in the name of ānational emergency.ā
Of course, when half the people who vote vote for lunacy, lunacy is what you get.
I completely agree.
Except heās already acquired the data he needs and shipped it over to his Russian handlers.
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FINALLY!!! Someone who GETS IT!!!
I said something similar in November, and had my comment removed, after being downvoted.
Peaceful protests donāt work. Raging infernos do.
I agree with everything you said, except that itās ābullyingā. Itās not. Heās the bully. Musk is the richest man on the earth. He could go to the most expensive resort on the planet and the entire lives of him and his 20-something children would already be paid for. Instead, he gladly puts on a red hat, waltzes through our taxpayer-funded public services, firing hundreds of thousands and causing decades of damage. All with almost no real savings, even using DOGEās own numbers. Again, no one voted for him, Congress didnāt approve of this. People pointing this out, and fighting back are not ābullyingā him, itās resistance. Oh, and heās a Nazi.
Keep bullying him.
Elon Musk should face justice for being a foreign insurgent.
After that, he can do whatever.
So encouraging suicide is okay now??
Why not? Say what you will about Adolf Hitler, but at least he went out with a bang!
Well, you know, it depends. The person you are encouraging is planning to kill thousands or even millions directly or indirectly with their politics?
Because there could be a difference between an anonymous person and a potential mass murderer.
Tolerance extends only until the Intolerant.
Elon and the damage he is causing will kill millions if he isnāt stopped. When capitalists kill it looks clean but itās mass murder nonetheless.
Dude lost a hundred billion. Boohoo. He hasnāt lost enough yet.
Dude could be destitute in a barrel and IMO needs to lose far far more. He deserves every little shit thing that happens to him, and is one of the few people on the planet where if they have a serious roadside accident I might just suddenly remember I panic from seeing blood and hence could not stop to help them and and in my panic did not have enough clear thought to call an ambulance. And Iād do that for murderers. But not for Musk. Heās the scum that cannot die soon enough, and cannot die painfully enough.
I wanna see him counting change in dollar tree
Bullying? Just stating facts will do. And torching Teslas. And what about SpaceX?
Since SpaceX has done good work with very little input from him, we can hope that the board sees he has become a liability and fires him. Donāt want to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Crybaby bitch wouldnāt last 5 mins in a cod lobby
Call of duty is a shitty series with shitty fans who you seem to be bragging about their *-phobic views. Thatās nothing to brag about.
Im not bragging, personally I hate the cod community and its toxicity, just saying that if he canāt handle some trolling in his game chat then he wouldnāt last a minute playing cod before crying to cruella de vil
Thatās fair. He definitely is more of a troll than he could stand dished back at him.
Resistance is not bullying.
My take: Heās been told to pack his shit and doesnāt wanna admit it. He knows full well āthe Leftā isnāt gonna forget what heās done.
So thereās that, but also the position of āspecial counselā or whatever dumb title he holds is time limited. You canāt be an unelected government official indefinitely (although Iām sure the current administration would change the rules if they cared enough to keep him). Heās making it sound like heās bowing out, when it was the plan to step down in May from the beginning.
All the rules this administration has chosen to ignore, i refuse to believe this is the one theyāre going to follow. He could always stay on as an outside contractor or whatever other bs they want to tell us. If heās leaving, there must be a reason.
Didnāt this happen in trumpās first term as well? Musk was right there but got the boot once people started joking about Elon being in charge
āThe leftā according to these fascists is anything from left to right in a sane personās eyes.
Only the most racist, bigoted and morally bankrupt are considered right by people like elon and Trump.
Itās far too late for that, Elon; we want your fucking head now.
Someone free Luigi. His work isnāt finished.
nah, he has done enough. time for the rest to step up
Kind of like the Doom Slayer.
Entered the kitchen, complained about it being too hot
Entered the kitchen, set fire to the trash can, complained about heat
Entered the kitchen, took some ketamine, shat his pants, took some LSD, set fire to the trash can, complained about the heat.
What does he mean he wants to leave politics? He is not in politics, he did not run for any office and was not voted for by anyone. He is free to leave whenever he wants.
Haha. Good point! He thought he bought the country the moron.
Snowflake.
Elon is a weird duck with delusions of grandeur who canāt understand the leftās disgust. It was the nazi salute, Elon. Itāll always be the nazi salute. All your other dank shit runs secondary to that.
I wouldnāt put it down solely to the Nazi salute, because most of us knew he was the kind of guy who would do a Nazi salute long before he actually did it.
Heās been absolute human garbage for a very long time, and now itās catching up to him.
I donāt know that most is accurate. He had the general public fooled into thinking he was a real life Tony Stark.
For a while, yeah. But the wheels have been falling off that characterization for at least six years at this point (ever since the āpedo guyā incident). And by the time he bought Twitter and went full mask off, anybody who was paying attention knew what he was.
That dank shit is the same thing.
to be fair the nazi salute was among the least nazi things hes done recently.
His Nazi salute didnāt decimate my 401k, tank the global economy, alienate our allies, and fire hundreds of thousands of people working for public services.
I was talking about Musk. It sounds like you are talking about Trump. It can be argued, Iād guess, that there is no difference.
Oneās the leader, oneās the enforcer. Theyāre both working toward the same goalsā¦ Does it really matter which is which?
It doesnāt matter which is which (same shit, different pile) but there is a distinction to be made if you are referencing the loss of value of your 401k. The leader caused that, not the enforcer.
No, he just wants back into the background and do shady things in obscurity again. We all know the rich canāt and wonāt stop meddling.
This is what people donāt get.
This is just double-win: He gets to once again shit on anybody even marginally less fascist that him (so, well, everybody) for the right-wing mass media, while simultaneously withdrawing from the public eye to have less people look at how heās draining money from the US gov.
His ego wonāt let him do that.
If heās not the center of attention for more than a few days he does something stupid or outrageous to get the cameras pointing at him again.
This is just the latest example of that. Everyoneās been talking about Hegseth and the Pope so itās the perfect time for him to play āvictimā and talk about how the āevil leftā is making him feel bad with their words.Exactly. Thereās no way he would leave, thereās too much power.
- Elon: goes full nazi
- Elon: goes full corrupt
- Elon: destroys government and thousands of lives
- People: angry, outraged
- Elon: feelings hurt, āwhy donāt they like meā
āthey must be paid protesters. Thereās no other explanationā ~nazi fuck
Says the guy who buys voters. And who lacks basic brain functionality to understand people hate him for being a nazi asshole who destroys people their lives by disrupting fragile systems made to protect lives and support the poor and ill. āthey must be paid by terroristsā
Kholed dickhead spends way too much time in fellating echo chamber, steps outside and loses shit at reality
Heās broken the departments investigating him and it isnāt fun anymore, he doesnāt have to be there at this point to win.
Thereās really nothing he can do about it at this point short of completely disappearing from the public eye. Heās so thoroughly fucked his reputation that anything associated with him is fucked by extension.
Even if he completely leaves any interaction with politics at all, he still has SpaceX, Twitter, and Tesla that will all maintain his status as a public figure. Heās not going to de-Nazify twitter. Telsas arenāt going to suddenly become good cars without a reputation of being swastikcars.
The only way he could stop being bullied by āthe leftā is if he sold off every company he owns and disappeared into obscurity. Even then, heāll still get roasted online all the time. But if he avoids social media he could probably ignore it.
But that would all go directly against his nature. So thereās nothing he realistically would do that could get āthe leftā to stop being mean to him. Itās the rest of his miserable life.
SEE?! Bullying bad people DOES work. Iāve been trying to tell people FOR YEARS.
Well, it does work for some, especially those that crave approval as much as this guy.
Not really though. Heās lying about leaving, of course.
Bullying Works
specifically the sitting on a man technique
Sound like a sound democratric system, albeit a bit too paternalistic.
Thatās if you take anything g this asshat says as truth. But he doesnāt tell the truth. Heās not going to leave on his own. He is just whining.
Itās especially effective against the mentally ill.
