• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago
    • Leftists are abandoning Joe Biden and this will ensure Donald Trump’s victory

    • Actually, Joe Biden is very popular and he’s going to win in a landslide. Anyone who says otherwise is a Russian shill.

    Rolling these two ideas in my brain like a pair of baoding balls

    • makyo@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Where have you heard the second one? I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone say that.

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        6 months ago

        It’s kind of implied by memes like this one. If you suspect any criticism of Biden is coming from Russian disinfo mills, it follows that there is little/no organic/genuine criticism of Biden.

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          Is it really the criticism of Biden that gets the cries of disinformation, or is it the conclusion that you shouldn’t vote for him that does it?

          Those are very different things, and they keep getting mixed together.

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            I mean, either way? How is it disinformation if I say I’m not going to vote for Biden? If you think everyone who says they aren’t voting for Biden is doing disinfo you are deluding yourself. You don’t have to like it and you are certainly free to argue with people, but don’t pretend that real people haven’t come to their own positions honestly.

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              6 months ago

              Because the stakes of this election are so very, very high. Trump genuinely and explicitly wants to create a fascist state; it’s borderline incomprehensible that somebody would choose to sit out and let that happen just because they don’t like Biden.