Employees at multiple federal agencies were ordered to remove pronouns from their email signatures by Friday afternoon, according to internal memos obtained by ABC News.

Signature /= footer

Resist

  • Padit@feddit.orgEnglish
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    15 hours ago

    I always thought “uh, this thing with the pronouns in email signatures is just woke Nonsens, everyone knows what gender I am and want to be seen as” (and i still don’t really get neo-pronouns, to be frank), but I now work in a very international environment, and I am so glad if people give me their pronouns, because I can’t always tell which gender an Indian or Chinese name is. Honestly, it’s just smart to add them and they just save everyone a lot of time/confusion.

    • PersnickityPenguin@lemm.eeEnglish
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      9 hours ago

      I thought the same thing as well.

      I have a few trans friends and neighbors who told me that basically when they came out and tried to change gender, no one would acknowledge their new identity. So it’s a subtle way to inform other people.

      Also, I have met more than a few people whom I had no idea of their gender. So it’s actually great to read that pronoun because I don’t like playing guessing games.

  • MiDaBa@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    1 day ago

    MAGA voters couldn’t identify a pronoun in high school. How are they supposed to figure it out now?

  • Luvs2Spuj@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 days ago

    Doesn’t go far enough, remove pronouns from the email body too.

    To it may concern. Notice did not complete task before deadline. Please can provide update? Look forward to reply.

  • Hirom@beehaw.orgEnglish
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    2 days ago

    Small government regulating pronouns in worker’s email signatures.

    Regulations For Thee but Not for Me

    • ynazuma@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 days ago

      Nouns are words that name people, places, things, or ideas, while pronouns are words that replace nouns to avoid repetition, such as “he,” “she,” or “they.” Essentially, pronouns serve a similar function to nouns but are used to refer back to them in sentences.

      Getting an education is cool

      Go for it

  • Opinionhaver@feddit.ukEnglish
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    2 days ago

    I agree with the sentiment but I wouldn’t go as far as banning it. I’m for free speech even when I think it’s stupid. I do admit of having preconceptions of people who do this though.

    Also, feels like such a pointless thing to debate about as someone whose native language doesn’t have gendered pronouns to begin with. Here everyone is they/them.

  • w3dd1e@lemm.eeEnglish
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    2 days ago

    Sorry to all the Blakes, Dylans, Ashleys, Francises, Shannons, Frankies, Charlies, Rorys, Blairs, Leslies, Angels, Billies, Sams, Kellys, Danas, Harleys, Adins, Caseys, and all the other non-binary/gender neutral names that I can’t think of right now.

    -signed a person with a non-binary name

      • Fedizen@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 days ago

        Even for gender cishet people a Dylan, Casey or Sam might be a “he/him” or “she/her” and its just not obvious from the name.

        • ynazuma@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 days ago

          So?

          Does that mean we all have to waste our time with pronouns?

          I can think of only one time I thought a female was a male from their name. It was not a problem. The name was Noel

          Seems like the name argument is no argument at all

          • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
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            1 day ago

            we, our, and I are all pronouns. Yes, we pretty much need to use pronouns.

          • JustAnotherKay@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            2 days ago

            So?

            Does that mean all have to waste time with pronouns?

            Can think of only one time thought a female was a male from name. Was not a problem. The name was Noel

            Seems like the name argument is no argument at all

            Sounds good ma’am. Have a great one

  • MunkysUnkEnz0@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 days ago

    For the life of me, I can’t understand why they care about someone’s sexual orientation or their pronoun.

    I ran the numbers on sex changes and it’s like .001 of the population. It’s a non-issue.

    The real issues are homelessness, inequality, Internet privacy, poisons in our food and workers’ rights…

    Not fucking pronouns.

    • Tja@programming.devEnglish
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      16 hours ago

      Well, eggs are back to $1 a dozen and everyone has housing and excellent healtcare coverage, so you can focus on renaming gulfs and prosecuting minorities…

    • Taleya@aussie.zoneEnglish
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      1 day ago

      They need an ‘enemy’ to rally people against and all the usual suspects are no longer politically expedient

    • ArchRecord@lemm.eeEnglish
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      1 day ago

      Two core reasons:

      1. Demonization. They need someone to demonize, that distracts voters and the general populace away from their own misdeeds, and lack of functional policy. If you’re too busy getting angry at the trans people, you won’t strike against the Billionaires.
      2. Insecurity. If the world isn’t actually as simple as you thought, your entire ideology is based on putting people into given labels and boxes to make your life easier, idealizing a nonexistent past, etc, then the world changing in any non-standard way is seen as something to be extremely afraid of. This is also what drives their concerns over immigrants (“replacing” their community’s racial dynamic), homeless people (“not wanting to work” like they did), climate change (this couldn’t possibly happen because then the industries and consumption you had your whole life would have to change), progressive education and scientific growth (learning new things about how what we used to think was wrong), etc. It’s all rooted in just wanting things to stay the same.
    • ynazuma@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 days ago

      The same can be said for all those years wasted shaming people into using gender neutral language and adding pronouns to communications

      Maybe we should not waste any time on this

    • Rozaŭtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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      2 days ago

      They don’t care. The tactic is to have a minority that you can blame for all the bad things.

      100 years ago it was the jews secretly running the world, today it’s the evil trans people and immigrants conspiring to destroy The West™.

    • Fluid@aussie.zoneEnglish
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      2 days ago

      Got to distract from the real issues somehow. Gotta keep that wealth extraction and concentrating system of exploitation alive. Can’t have the slave rising up to overthrow their masters again…

    • Sterile_Technique@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 days ago

      For the life of me, I can’t understand why they care about someone’s sexual orientation or their pronoun.

      They don’t. It’s classic divide and conquer tactics to package up the general population into nice bite-sized chunks that they can destroy individually with minimal resistance from the others. Exact same shit is how the Nazis rose to power.

  • h_ramus@lemm.eeEnglish
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    2 days ago

    The communist leader of northern Venezuela is mandating how to conduct your business, how to write, how to speak.

    Party of small government, rule of law and free markets.

  • Tower@lemm.eeEnglish
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    2 days ago

    Legal disclaimers often have pronouns, right?

    “The information contained in this email message is intended only for the personal use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not an intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error, please immediately notify me by replying to this message and then delete this email from your system.”

    Malicious compliance it and replace all of the pronouns: “The information contained in this email message is intended only for the personal use of the recipient(s) named above. If the recipient is not an intended recipient of this email, the recipient is hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If the recipient received this email in error, please immediately notify John Doe by replying to this message and then delete this email from the recipient’s system.”

    Fuck 'em. I’m sure with a bit of work they could come up with some stuff that renders it nearly unreadable.

    • Malgas@beehaw.orgEnglish
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      2 days ago

      Um, I didn’t see where it said to replace pronouns with anything, only to remove them. So the correct verbiage would clearly be:

      The information contained in this email message is intended only for the personal use of the recipient(s) named above. If are not an intended recipient of this email, are hereby notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If received this email in error, please immediately notify by replying to this message and then delete this email from system.