• DarkFuture@lemmy.worldEnglish
    392·
    3 days ago

    How many times in our history are Americans going to get duped into hating people they never even interact with and know nothing about?

    None of these people know trans people. These morons have just been conditioned to hate them regardless of not even knowing them. It’s pathetic. They’ve never been hurt, or even inconvenienced by a trans person. Bigot fucks.

    • whoisearth@lemmy.ca
      5·
      3 days ago

      I mean outside of America we are still going to all let this happen. We are all marching straight into WW3 like the “this is fine” meme.

      Should we survive as a species I look forward to 50 years from now where America adopts strong anti-facism laws like Germany has.

      Question is, who is the good guy in this new world we are entering?

      FWIW as a Canadian we are so fucked. America is going to come knocking for our resources soon and we won’t be able to say no.

        • whoisearth@lemmy.ca
          2·
          3 days ago

          Head between my legs and pray tbh lol

          I kinda look at it less like WW2 repeat but the fall of Rome.

          Either way we are screwed though. The emperor has no clothes.

          • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.netEnglish
            3·
            3 days ago

            You may want to consider getting involved with a local mutual aid group. The connections you make now will likely pay off in the future.

            • whoisearth@lemmy.ca
              1·
              3 days ago

              Oh I’m not worried about me or mine. I’m confident I can keep 1 step ahead of this madness.

            • whoisearth@lemmy.ca
              1·
              3 days ago

              Deep breaths and take things a day at a time. People have been through far worse even today. I was joking with my GF last night who is South African. This ain’t nothing compared to what she has been through as a Zulu woman.

              I know it’s not the best answer for you, but it is what it is. You either endure or you don’t. Me? I choose to endure.

  • mvirts@lemmy.world
    312·
    3 days ago

    Oh no please don’t send highly trained members of our military home where they can protect and train their fellow Americans!

  • lychee🍒@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    892·
    4 days ago

    The ideological score here must be worth more to Trump than the strength of America’s military, already hurting for new recruits, which says a lot and frankly scares the fuck out of me

    • floofloof@lemmy.caOPEnglish
      951·
      4 days ago

      Weakening the USA’s defenses seems to be a consistent theme with Trump.

    • BigPotato@lemmy.world
      10·
      3 days ago

      Well, the problem is you’re thinking logically. It’s an ideological victory on both ends for him.

      Conservatives view this as strengthening the military, not weakening it.

      The actual strength of America’s Military doesn’t matter because they don’t have hostile nations on their borders. So when America’s Military loses some of their force projection ability it can be used to say we’re turning towards isolationist policy, which is also a win for him. (From the Putin angle and from the Conservative one)

      And, again, if you point out that this move will weaken the American Military, well what are you? A terrorist who doesn’t believe they have the greatest, manliest fighting force ever seen?

  • steventhedev@lemmy.world
    401·
    4 days ago

    My immediate thought is that Klinger will be happy.

    Trump’s legacy will be long term damage to national security, rampant racism and discrimination, and widespread corruption.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
      71·
      4 days ago

      I was once near to (but did not interact with) Jamie Farr maybe 10 years ago. It’s really hard to see him and not picture him in a dress.

    • Kalysta@lemm.ee
      2·
      3 days ago

      His legacy was that after the first go round.

      This time it may be destroying democracy entirely.

  • rxbudian@lemmy.caEnglish
    501·
    4 days ago

    They can form their own Blackwater and charge gazilion dollars to operate in the same places as they were before

    • Maggoty@lemmy.world
      28·
      4 days ago

      You joke but that’s why they want to fuck up the military. PMCs lobby too and they’re willing to do everything in a war from flying the planes to being grunts on the line.

  • MyOpinion@lemm.ee
    821·
    4 days ago

    Then place them in internment camps. We know where this is going you damn Nazi.

    • auzy@lemmy.world
      59·
      4 days ago

      He’s already completed the first step, by making them seem inhuman and criminal

      Which is ironic, because he’s the one who boasted about perving on kids

    • Skydancer@pawb.social
      9·
      3 days ago

      I assume that’s the plan with RFK’s “wellness camps”. Define gender dysphoria as a qualifying mental illness, and send transgender folks there to replace migrant workers who have been deported.

    • floofloof@lemmy.caOPEnglish
      3·
      3 days ago

      Well I hope you’re right. After reading your comment I went to check sources for this story on Ground News. The original source sense to be a paywalled article in The Times which I can’t read. There are many other sources but they’re not what you’d call top tier, and they may all be feeding off each other (see screenshot below). So yes, there seems to be hope that this is false.

    • octopus_ink@lemmy.mlEnglish
      11·
      2 days ago

      Oh well newsweek says that the biggest pack of liars the world has ever seen says they won’t do it. Nothing to worry about folks!

      Trump’s transition team denied that any decisions on the issue had been made. Spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt told Newsweek that the unnamed sources “are speculating and have no idea what they are actually talking about.”

      “No decisions on this issue have been made. No policy should ever be deemed official unless it comes directly from President Trump or his authorized spokespeople,” she said.

      Confirmation bias is a hell of a drug. For shame.

      Is it confirmation bias when I know Trump and his team are gigantic liars so I’m not quite going to rule out this very-on-brand policy that they are pre-denying until he’s in office and it doesn’t happen?

      MTG believes they are going to do it according to the same article, but I acknowledge she’s got the brainpower of a squirrel, so I’m not putting much stock in that.

      • ObjectivityIncarnate@lemmy.world
        1·
        2 days ago

        Is it confirmation bias when I know Trump and his team are gigantic liars so I

        believe every negative thing you hear about him/them without the slightest bit of scrutiny/skepticism?

        Yes.

        • octopus_ink@lemmy.mlEnglish
          11·
          2 days ago

          Dunno man, pattern seeking is the one thing we’re really good at. All aspects of it are on brand - including the likelihood that saying today that there are no plans to do so is absolutely unrelated to whether there are plans to do so.

          I find the claim he will do this to be absolutely no less credible than the claim he won’t.

          But, it doesn’t matter what I believe or what they say right now, he’s not in office. If he thinks it makes him more powerful to do so, he’ll do it when he gets in, regardless of what they are saying now and regardless of whether they are lying currently. I have no doubt of that.

  • kent_eh@lemmy.caEnglish
    12·
    3 days ago

    Are there actually 15K trans soldiers in the army, or is this just another number that he pulled out of his ass?

    • spujb@lemmy.cafeEnglish
      17·
      3 days ago

      Transgender people are significantly more likely to serve in the US military than the general US population.[178][179] According to 2014 estimates from the Williams Institute on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity Law and Public Policy, despite the ban on military service, about 21.4% of the total transgender population in the US is estimated to have served in the military. In May 2014, an estimated 15,500 transgender individuals served on active duty or in the Guard or Reserve forces.[22] Wikipedia

      So it’s a real number he just thinks military=army like the fake loser he is.

      • kent_eh@lemmy.caEnglish
        8·
        3 days ago

        Apparently I vastly underestimated how many people are in the US military in general.

        Transgender people are significantly more likely to serve in the US military than the general US population

        That also surprises me.

          • kent_eh@lemmy.caEnglish
            3·
            3 days ago

            My first inclination would not be to join an organization that has a long and notorious history of testosterone fuelled bro culture.

        • grrgyle@slrpnk.net
          3·
          3 days ago

          Don’t folks get gender affirming / plastic surgery for free or something? I think I heard it was covered because it lets military surgeons get practice for when they go work for private sector after their bit

          • BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world
            3·
            3 days ago

            The military and the VA offer gender affirming care, and what they offer varies.

            For instance (I’m going off memory for active duty, I got out in 2017), if you’re active duty, I believe they’ll pay for everything so long as you lay out in your Transition Plan everything you want covered and your commanding officer approves it. You need “approval” to ensure that your absence during medical recovery won’t hinder mission readiness, so basically, if you’re about to be deployed in a month for 6 months, and you’re supposed to have gender affirming surgery tomorrow with a multi-month recovery, your surgery will likely be postponed.

            The VA, which is for veterans, covers a majority of gender affirming care, but they aren’t legally allowed to cover everything. GRS/SRS is the big on, the military will cover that I believe, but the VA cannot and will not.

            With Trump coming in, I have a feeling this is all going to go away, and they’re going to use a similar approach as the Federal Minimum Drinking Age Act to basically make LGBTQ+ healthcare illegal via withholding federal funding from those states who try to continue after a federal ban. “The states can choose their drinking age gender affirming care, but those who don’t follow the federal guidelines will lose access to XYZ federal funding.”

        • BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world
          1·
          3 days ago

          What’s even crazier is that, in the modern US military, less than 1% of the population serves in the military.

          There are also more NYPD cops than there are active duty Coast Guard personnel.

  • nicomachus@programming.devEnglish
    461·
    4 days ago

    You think with the recruiting problems we have you’d do your best to retain the people we have.

    If you can get through basic and fulfill your tasks you should be able to be in the military. If the government doesn’t want to pay for “gender affirming care” that’s fine. But these people should still be allowed in the military.

    Also, what kind of discharge are these people getting? Honorable, General, Dishonorable?