(Disclaimer: I voted against Trump and anyone who supported him in my state.)

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    Luckily the House of representatives have set up the rules such that they can call to change their majority leader whenever they disagree with each other, so very few actual policies will change. They might even fail to pass their own tax plan again, that would be nice.

    What is fucked is USA’s allies depending on support from NATO, USA’s economy as Tariff season is here now, USA immigrants, and of course the Environment. Last time Trump was in he removed protections for forests and streams, and put a Coal Lobbyist in charge of the EPA.

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    To everyone in here saying that this is the end of democracy and this is the end times, what is stopping you from buying a gun and training with other liberals/leftists? Or are you just going to keel over and die?

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    One of the biggest things is that the “deep state”, an innocuous thing turned into a convenient boogeyman by trump, will be quietly destroyed. This is the thing that actually keep your mail arriving, your food edible and your children’s toys not coated in lead. The “deep state”, meaning actual subject matter experts doing their jobs throughout entire government for years, regardless of current administration, are all going to be replaced by kid rock and vaping young republicans fresh from dropping out of their second semester in at The University of Southern Alabama State.

    That’s who’s going to be the dude inspecting your meat for e.coli and signing off on the clinical trials for your perception meds - Gunner, Hunter and Ryder.

    Really don’t think anyone is considering the reality of how deeply fucked we’re going to be as we’re all fixed fully on the front door for obvious signs of trouble (immediate societal decay), while this broken people fill the crawlspace with fertilizer and gasoline and kick in the backdoor with flamethrowers in hand.

    We’re fucked, and we’re going to be focused on monitoring the wrong indicators of how fucked, until it is just beyond any repair within any of our lifetimes. You’re going to have FIVE fundamentally broken petite on the Supreme Court for the rest of your life. It’s over.

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    Fucked regardless but how fucked remains to be seen. Just as before, Trump will spend his presidency golfing, what really matters are his cabinet picks. Best case scenario is that just like 2016-2020 in-fighting and general incompetence make the administration a revolving door and keep the Christian Nationalist from realizing their darkest ambitions. Worst Case is that the Fascist have learned from their mistakes. I also think Trump either dying or being forced to step down (with a pardon of course) is a possibility that is on the table. Vance is a much more competent Fascist and this is definitely a worst case scenario.

    Regardless, I think there are a few things that are guaranteed to happen:

    • The dismantling of much of the Federal Government. Starve the Beast will finally come to fuition. The Department of Eduction, the FDA, The EPA, ect will become toothless if not entirely abolished. De-regulation will bring us back to early 20th century levels of consumer protection and quality control. Read “The Jungle” to get an idea. Public Health is going to tank dramatically.
    • The little safety net Americans have will be pulled out from under them. Workers will be entirely beholden to their employers. The price of most consumer goods will surge, bankruptcy from healthcare cost will skyrocket, and homelessness will become even more common. Homelessness will become completely criminalized and the % of the American population imprisoned will make today’s prison population look small.
    • The police and surveillance state will be expanded dramatically with the intent of targeting undesirables. Immigrants will be deported, while Trans people and political dissidents will be labeled as sexual criminals and will be eliminated. As time marches on more groups will be targets for the state. People around you will simply disappear sometimes, victims of secret police.
    • An increase in media censorship by morality police. Pornography will be banned, and using that vague label media critical of the regime or expressing ideas against the regimes interest will be censored.
    • The US will pull out of NATO and pursue a policy of isolation. Authoritarian and expansionist regimes around the world will be allowed to pursue their interests unchecked.
    • A general brain-drain as educated people with the means to do so flee to Canada or Europe. As time passes it is likely that emigration from America will be made more difficult by the state, effectively stranding people here who didn’t get out soon enough.
    • We will completely miss the window to do anything to avoid the worst-case scenarios for climate change. So it’s not just America that’s fucked here.

    Smoke em while you got em, it’s about to get rough for everyone. We are in the death throes of the Neo-Liberal world order. Buy a firearm and get a vpn. Keep your vehicle as fueled as you can, and if you are able keep a sizable amount of cash stored somewhere safe. There’s never been a better time to go vegan and get in shape. Do what you can for the people you care about.

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    Even if trump doesn’t do everything in project 2025, the supreme court picks mean we’re basically ultra fucked. Like, that’s best case.

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    Between 2017 and 2021, things got pretty bad. Riots, wars, a plague, economic crash, and it ended with a mob breaking into the nation’s capital and trashing the place.

    Can’t imagine a repeat will be better.

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    Breathtakingly fucked. Wannabe dictator with a mandate from the dumbest mfers alive.

    But take heart. The battle for the US is now a fight between the old guard Reaganite Republicans and the out&out Fascists. For the next 4 years at least the Dems are a complete non-factor. I hope the DNC is proud of their accomplishment.

    All the worst possible things that could happen are now not just on the table but incredibly likely.

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    The orange shrivelled taco will probably keel over before his term ends. Just look at him, does this look like someone who might survive four more years?

    What would happen afterwards with JD Vance at the helm I’m less clear.

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    Some people are going to die-- mostly women. More people are going to have their lives turned upside-down, especially immigrants and ethnic and sexual minorities. Many immigrants, even legal ones, are going to be expelled. Corporations are going to run wild as regulation is abandoned. People are going to be bankrupted by predatory healthcare firms at a much higher rate than now. Every form of corporate pollution, adulteration, cheating and chicanery will be tolerated. The judiciary will be further corrupted. The US will not only withdraw from NATO, but will try to shut it down. Ukraine will be handed to Putin on a platter. Taiwan, the Baltics, Moldova and Poland will be left to fend for themselves. The ethnic cleansing in Gaza will transition even further to a full-scale genocide. Every aspect of government will be handed to corrupt, incompetent fanatics: kakistocracy all the way down. The impartiality of the civil service will be destroyed and the 19th-century spoils system reinstated. Social Security will be privatized and gutted. Obamacare will be eliminated. Congress will hold show trials of Trump’s perceived enemies. Terrorist acts and sabotage of critical infrastructure will massively increase, and the clampdowns that follow will be used to further degrade what few rights we still have.

    But at least you won’t have Kamala’s pantsuit to complain about.

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      bro, i know all that stuff is bad, but have you heard her laugh? we made a solid choice.

      (i hope i don’t need the /s, but Poe’s Law says i probably do)

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      All that, and you may have left out the most damaging of all… Trump will likely pull the US out of Copenhagen, leaving no chance of limiting temps below 2C let alone getting anywhere near 1.5C. The excess deaths from this will likely dwarf COVID.

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        Honestly, I can’t be bothered to worry about the climate 100 years from now when we’re going to be attacking (many more) Americans 100 days from now

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          Mate it’s not 100 years, more like 20. Look at all the extreme weather from this year alone. Most recently with Spain.

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          I can’t be bothered to worry about the climate 100 years from now

          I can because I care about my kids and potential grandchildren.

          we’re going to be attacking (many more) Americans 100 days from now

          I also have family members who will be impacted directly by that.

          I can be concerned about stopping both of those negative outcomes. (And would be even if it didn’t directly impact my family)

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          Don’t get me wrong, Drumph’s second term will be bad for everyone. But the climate issue is going to be truly catastrophic on a scale even he and his cronies can’t match. There should be plenty of worry to go around.

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      Why dont you guys start your own " stop the steal"?
      Just say that 20 million illegals voted for trump, Kamala won and all this is just big election fraud.

      Just wondering.

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          He could. Totally legal thanks to the SCROTUS. But Dems are cowards by nature. They never would. Which is why this outcome was inevitable. If not now, later. We might actually end up being lucky it was Trump and not someone truly competent, but I doubt it.

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            I think Biden still believes that things can swing back in the midterms or next presidential election. I don’t think he realizes that this might have been the last election that was possible to win.

            If he does something drastic, he’d probably hand even more popular support to the Republicans in general and to Trump in particular who would play victims as much as they could.

            If he does nothing, it might be the end of democracy, not just in the US but in most of the world. But he will have “accepted defeat gracefully” and considering he won’t live to see the worst of it, I imagine that’s all that matters.

            Edit: Just watched his speech. Nope, he thinks this is business as usual.

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    America has always been a white supremacist slave colony.

    It will still be fucking over the entire planet.

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    The planner will never recover from his systematic sabotage of all efforts to save it. This is what scares me most. He lies through his teeth to make money, a lakey to soulless corporate mega entities and the entire human race will pay for this one man’s greed, long after he has died. Our kids will pay for his opulence and that to me is so sad.

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    Multiple regulatory bodies are going to get disbanded. The EPA is unlikely to survive, whole departments of the FDA are about to get gutted. Anything involving industrial safety is going to get its funding cut. Unconstitutional crackdowns on free and independent media is almost certain. Large scale damage to the functions of many government institutions can be expected. Massive economic damage due to reckless deregulation ( that’s even before they start putting tariffs on everything and wind up in multiple simultaneous trade wars). Funding for education and infrastructure maintenance will be reduced to allow tax cuts for the already wealthy. Massive loss of global influence and a massive gain in influence by hostile autocratic nations is also something you can expect.

    I could go on and on but even if you were to assume they weren’t serious about project 2025 (if you haven’t read that you should) it’s real bad.

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      call me hopelessly naiive but just… why? the why is what i can never wrap my head around? why do they want to destroy the country? do they hate it? and like… why would people want to get rid of social security? do they just want people after 65 years old to… die? why?? i’m so sad…

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        Yes. America has always been two countries. I hate the America they love and they hate the America we love. And the problem is that these Americas have always existed together. We’re the Union to their confederacy. We’re the premature anti fascists to their silver shirts.

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        Many believe they are saving the country by voting for Trump. Everyone sees that America is going downhill. Everything is more expensive, more uncertain, more precarious. Leftists blame corporations and corporate capture of government agencies. Right wingers think that more corporate power is good and if left unchecked, the “free market” (aka government rules that favor unchecked corporate malfeasance) will be better for America.

        People vote for their economic interests, as best as they can understand them. Most on the right think that their economic interests are served by corporate deregulation and scapegoating of immigrants. However, within that context, this is also why removing social security is not realistic. That’s a direct attack on people’s benefits, which they are not in favor of. Right wing corporate types want to cut social security so they don’t have to pay taxes, or there will be more money in the government coffers to give back to the corporations. But the majority of right wing people that the corporate types rely on for votes will never vote to repeal social security.

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        Dictators only care about one thing: absolute power. They will destroy the country they take over to get that power and to keep it for as long as possible

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            Imagine basing your personality on a satire character and thinking you’re an independent thinker.

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              Read the comments and note the downvotes, sir. I’m definitely in the minority here. Therefore I would dare suggest it is in fact you who are the thoughtless parrot here. Governments are corrupt and incompetant organizations, and the bigger they become, the more corrupt and incompetant they are. If you truly are concerned that a single man can wreck such damage, you need to understand that is only possible because people like you have built up an organization that holds far too much power. The obvious solution is to shrink the scope of that organization so that a single maniac can’t do so much damage.

              Big government is to blame for Trump having so much power. Learn, or be doomed to see history repeat itself.

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                Just because you say the sky is yellow, doesn’t mean you’re better for it.

                If you shrink the government, corporations will just fill the power vacuum. It’s that simple.

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                  Open your eyes. Corporations already heavily influence policy. Stop making that possible by decentralizing the power!

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    If you’re a white Christian male you are the shit.

    Anyone else is losing rights

    Also Trump will declare martial law after 4 years with presidential immunity and every position of power stacked with handpicked loyalists.

    Unless there is a revolution of some kind the US will probably go the path of Nazi Germany after Hitler achieved total control

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    Who cares, it’s what they want and what they voted for, AGAIN. I’d be more concerned about the rest of the world. America can go off in a puff of smoke and it would be the best thing the ever did

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      Listen, I hate my country right now, and am disgusted by the people who live here…

      That’s it, that’s the end of my sentence.

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      Except your trade would be hindered. Russia would plow through Europe. The power vacuum made by America “puffing up in smoke” would be so great and horrific it would probably overshadow WW2 total deaths.

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          You must be a confused on what it is America does around here. Forget the public distractions of television and the political discourses.

          Ask yourself a question, why isn’t Russia in Europe right now? Why are pirates not commandeering trade ships? Like it or not youre asking for your securities to be removed. Or wishing it.

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            The fact that Russia is struggling to sustain a war with a country with relatively weak military power, should indicate why your statements are delusional. That aside, the UK and France have nuclear power. Germany, Netherlands, Belgium and Italy have nuclear weapons sharing statues.

            If we take away morality, and the fact that no one wants to have ww3, what makes you think they can do any real damage to Europe?

            And the pirates comment is hilarious, when Europe has the UK and France.

            You greatly overestimate what the USA does for Europe, and the impact then disappearing would have on the continent, across the entire ocean from them

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              No idea why you’re downvoted. You’re right. USA not existing would suck for many people, yes. Especially Israel. Europe not so much.

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    We should remember that most Americans still live in blue states with sane governments. The federal government can’t just barge in and do whatever it wants, and if tries to do so, the social contract that binds the nation together is broken and secession becomes a real possibility. But that’s unlikely because Trump is far too clueless to know about any of the problems he’ll run into if he tries to implement any of his plans.

    Which is fine for him because it was always a con anyway. He talks and acts out of his ass. What he will do is anyone’s guess, but it’ll at least be restrained by what’s realistically possible.

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      My so called blue state of California just voted against minimum wage increase, against rent control, against banning slavery, and for increasing the war on drugs. At least this time we narrowly voted to approve gay marriage (unlike last time where we banned it)

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      The Federal government CAN just barge in. We specifically designed the structure that way. Federal supercedes state.

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      Federal laws trump state laws every time, those blue states will be just as shit as the red states in no time

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      I’d love be as optimistic as you but unless Trump changes his mind the US will get a brainwormed fanatical anti-vaccier in charge of deciding which vaccines are safe to use. Even if the states don’t cooperate with trump’s agenda there are so many long standing federal institutions which till now you’ve never needed to think about that are about to get wrecked.

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      He will absolutely move the military into a blue state to force compliance. This is how the next civil war will start. Red Force and blue resistance.

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      And what about the ones, like me, in red states? How fucked are we? (I know the answer and hence drunk and high rn)

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        Realistically people should start to self sort and leftists should start to purchase and train with guns if they don’t have them for their family’s protection.